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Police op exposes Newport's booze kids
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| Some of the youngsters caught on CCTV drinking openly in public in the Gaer during the police crackdown |
A GIRL of 13 nearly dies after a drinking session, children as young as 12 caught with booze in the street, shopkeers face legal action for selling alcohol to the underages and 40 youngsters are seen drinking and fighting during a police operation - these are Newport's booze kids.
These shocking incidents were revealed as details were given of one of Wales' largest ever crackdowns on underage drinking and antisocial behaviour on the Gaer estate in Newport.
Up to 40 teenagers and a number of traders are now facing legal action.
An on-going joint operation involving trading standards, community safety wardens and Gwent Police followed the intensification of problems with youths and alcohol-related disorder.
It escalated to the point where the 13-year-old needed her stomach pumped twice due to alcohol which was allegedly traced to local shops.
Responding to demand from the community, a major intelligence-gathering operation took place in the past few weeks focussing on the area around Gaer shops, Hillview flats, the community centre, and Dickens Drive.
Community safety wardens carried out covert surveillance where they recorded widespread cases of drink-related disorder.
Footage recorded 65 offences of youths drinking, 60 offences of urinating, 51 cases of under-age purchasing of alcohol, plus numerous breaches of ASBOs and Acceptable Behaviour Contracts (ABCs).
There were also two drug offences.
Wardens and police confiscated large amounts of alcohol from youths and during the operation there was a marked decline in offending.
Trading standards officers are now targeting traders believed to be selling alcohol to underage youths, either directly or from adults buying drink for them.
Helen Wilkie, the council's public protection manager, said: "The surveillance footage we have gathered shows the shocking extent of the problems that are blighting the lives of people living in this area."
She explained it was not going to be an isolated operation, and traders selling alcohol to young people should know they were already looking at similar operations in other areas.
Sergeant Martyn Smith, of Newport central neighbourhood policing team, said: "We're determined to tackle irresponsible licensees who betray the very communities they claim to serve."
Home Office statistics showed a third of all young offenders involved in criminal damage and vandalism were under the influence of alcohol, he added.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith yesterday called for stronger action to be taken against young troublemakers.
12:10pm Friday 9th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: BT, newport on 12:39pm Fri 9 May 08
Where are these teanagers [bold]parents?[/bold] Why are they not asking questions when their young teenagers arrive home [bold]intoxicated?[/bold] . The sale of alchohol to underage teenagers is a police issue, however the fact the teenagers are buying and drinking is a parenting issue and responsibility of what they children are up to!!
Where are these teanagers
parents? Why are they not asking questions when their young teenagers arrive home
intoxicated? . The sale of alchohol to underage teenagers is a police issue, however the fact the teenagers are buying and drinking is a parenting issue and responsibility of what they children are up to!!
Posted by: js, cardiff on 12:53pm Fri 9 May 08
i expect the parents are also intoxicated somewhere - what a country- bring back the days when these little b@astards were punished properly
i expect the parents are also intoxicated somewhere - what a country- bring back the days when these little b@astards were punished properly
Posted by: mrs jo, newport on 1:22pm Fri 9 May 08
THE PROBLEMS IS, AS LONG AS THESE LITTLE SO AND SO'S ARE NOT INTERFERING WITH THEIR PARENTS SOCIAL LIVES, THEN THE PARENTS DON'T SEEM TO CARE. THERE IS NO WAY ON GODS EARTH THAT A CHILD OF 13 SHOULD BE HAVING HER STOMACH PUMPED ONCE, LET ALONE TWICE. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING IN THESE KIDS HEADS! THEY CERTAINLY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE BRAINS GOD GAVE GEESE! THE POLICE NEED TO GET TOUGH, THEN AGAIN SO DO THE COURTS! MORE THAN JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS!
THE PROBLEMS IS, AS LONG AS THESE LITTLE SO AND SO'S ARE NOT INTERFERING WITH THEIR PARENTS SOCIAL LIVES, THEN THE PARENTS DON'T SEEM TO CARE. THERE IS NO WAY ON GODS EARTH THAT A CHILD OF 13 SHOULD BE HAVING HER STOMACH PUMPED ONCE, LET ALONE TWICE. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING IN THESE KIDS HEADS! THEY CERTAINLY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE BRAINS GOD GAVE GEESE! THE POLICE NEED TO GET TOUGH, THEN AGAIN SO DO THE COURTS! MORE THAN JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS!
Posted by: Oddjob, Monmouthshire on 1:33pm Fri 9 May 08
As welcome as this initiative is, it's a pity that the authorities didn't have this crack down five years ago. It's nothing new on the Gear, and I'm sure in most other estates in Zooport. A lot of heartache could have been avoided.
As welcome as this initiative is, it's a pity that the authorities didn't have this crack down five years ago. It's nothing new on the Gear, and I'm sure in most other estates in Zooport. A lot of heartache could have been avoided.
Posted by: Chris on 1:36pm Fri 9 May 08
I hope the law comes down hard on the traders selling the stuff, the kids, and their parents.
I hope the law comes down hard on the traders selling the stuff, the kids, and their parents.
Posted by: LJ, newport on 1:44pm Fri 9 May 08
I totally blame the parents, these kids should never be out drinking, these parents obviously dont care about there kids. I say make parents take responsibility, hit em where it hurts, FINE THEM. They would be eager to know what their kids are doing then.
I totally blame the parents, these kids should never be out drinking, these parents obviously dont care about there kids. I say make parents take responsibility, hit em where it hurts, FINE THEM. They would be eager to know what their kids are doing then.
Posted by: truth hurts, newport on 1:55pm Fri 9 May 08
never mind the gear they should patrol along corporation road and cromwell road the booze being sold to underage kids is riff
never mind the gear they should patrol along corporation road and cromwell road the booze being sold to underage kids is riff
Posted by: DG, Newport on 3:25pm Fri 9 May 08
Well done to the police for this successful operation. I'm quick enough to shout when they don't do a good job, so only seems right to praise them when they do :)
Well done to the police for this successful operation. I'm quick enough to shout when they don't do a good job, so only seems right to praise them when they do :)
Posted by: red1, Newport on 3:42pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]truth hurts[/bold] wrote:
never mind the gear they should patrol along corporation road and cromwell road the booze being sold to underage kids is riff [/quote] **** right just in the last few months our street have had pots of paint thrown over our cars, 3 burgleries, fireworks thrown at our cars & I personally had fireworks thrown directly at me whilst trying to walk my dogs!!! Funny though I haven't seen a police officer ??????
truth hurts wrote:
never mind the gear they should patrol along corporation road and cromwell road the booze being sold to underage kids is riff
**** right just in the last few months our street have had pots of paint thrown over our cars, 3 burgleries, fireworks thrown at our cars & I personally had fireworks thrown directly at me whilst trying to walk my dogs!!! Funny though I haven't seen a police officer ??????
Posted by: john, home on 3:46pm Fri 9 May 08
It is very simple, at the moment the kids can create this problem and then get sent home and others pick up the pieces.
They are of the age whereby they know the law, they are aiding and abetting an offence and should know if caught that they will be punished.Just make sure that there is a punishment to fit, come on Labour you have brought in over 3000 laws since you have been in, one more will not make much difference! or will it?
It is very simple, at the moment the kids can create this problem and then get sent home and others pick up the pieces.
They are of the age whereby they know the law, they are aiding and abetting an offence and should know if caught that they will be punished.Just make sure that there is a punishment to fit, come on Labour you have brought in over 3000 laws since you have been in, one more will not make much difference! or will it?
Posted by: Me, newport on 4:18pm Fri 9 May 08
why isnt there a cerfuw (if thats how u spell it :S) like in american. the cerfuw should b 9pm and if any children under the age of 16 seen out after that they should be taken home and the parents should be fined. surely that would quiten things down a bit especially if it was policed well and the fine was hefty
why isnt there a cerfuw (if thats how u spell it :S) like in american. the cerfuw should b 9pm and if any children under the age of 16 seen out after that they should be taken home and the parents should be fined. surely that would quiten things down a bit especially if it was policed well and the fine was hefty
Posted by: BOB, NEWPORT on 5:20pm Fri 9 May 08
The police & council pretty much ignore it. It is very widesspread in Newport and most shops will sell children booze.
Once in a blue moon the police will pick up a few children and claim what a wonderful job they are doing. They will then disapear for the nexct 12 month.
Go into Newport town centre any day and you will find schoolchildren drinking some even in school uniform. They dont care because they know nothing will be done
The police & council pretty much ignore it. It is very widesspread in Newport and most shops will sell children booze.
Once in a blue moon the police will pick up a few children and claim what a wonderful job they are doing. They will then disapear for the nexct 12 month.
Go into Newport town centre any day and you will find schoolchildren drinking some even in school uniform. They dont care because they know nothing will be done
Posted by: Say_it_isnt_so, Newport on 5:30pm Fri 9 May 08
I know some parents that believe that letting their kids drink in front of them will prevent them from drinking on the streets behind their backs... I personlally think this will encourage it! Alcohol has a legal age limit of 18 for a reason.
I know some parents that believe that letting their kids drink in front of them will prevent them from drinking on the streets behind their backs... I personlally think this will encourage it! Alcohol has a legal age limit of 18 for a reason.
Posted by: gareth white on 5:58pm Fri 9 May 08
The general curfew{if thats how you spell it}in the US, is anyone under 16 found out in a public place without an adult present will be taken home. This includes young teen drivers who are legally allowed to drive at 16.
The general curfew{if thats how you spell it}in the US, is anyone under 16 found out in a public place without an adult present will be taken home. This includes young teen drivers who are legally allowed to drive at 16.
Posted by: Mervyn James on 7:58pm Fri 9 May 08
I'm not a bit surprised. Evry corner shop is floor to ceileing with booze, they wouldn't be doing that if nobody bought it. It shows Mmany people and nttheir kids in Newport aer rarely sober at any time of day, it's cheaper to drink booze than water, that's fact. Newport has a long history of drunkeness,that streaches back 300 years, the papers of the day mirror exactly the ARgus headlines now,so nothing has changed. The police and counils are not pro-active enough, they are still NOT closing down off licnces that sell to children, or put a total limit on the amount of shops able to get a licence to sell booze. we need 'zoning' at Newport outside the city immediate centre, ONE shop selling booze, per 5,000 people. Town centre an absolute limit on the number of pubs and clubs that can be set up too. 24hr drinking has failed miserably, and created more drunks. People who can't hold their drink should never get access to it.
I'm not a bit surprised. Evry corner shop is floor to ceileing with booze, they wouldn't be doing that if nobody bought it. It shows Mmany people and nttheir kids in Newport aer rarely sober at any time of day, it's cheaper to drink booze than water, that's fact. Newport has a long history of drunkeness,that streaches back 300 years, the papers of the day mirror exactly the ARgus headlines now,so nothing has changed. The police and counils are not pro-active enough, they are still NOT closing down off licnces that sell to children, or put a total limit on the amount of shops able to get a licence to sell booze. we need 'zoning' at Newport outside the city immediate centre, ONE shop selling booze, per 5,000 people. Town centre an absolute limit on the number of pubs and clubs that can be set up too. 24hr drinking has failed miserably, and created more drunks. People who can't hold their drink should never get access to it.
Posted by: john on 8:41pm Fri 9 May 08
What kind of people run these off licenses, are they scared to refuse these kids.
If they are they should not be doing the job
Or is the wage at the end of the week more important than the suffering these kids inflict on themselves and others.
A complete ban should be served on all these quick buck sell anything to anyone off-licence stores.
Shop owners are no more than drug dealers selling to kids.
At any point in a day or night the police can catch these shop owners but they don’t bother.
When they are caught they no there doing wrong they should be banned
The shop should be black listed’ so its not passed to another family member
We all no the majority of shop owners are Asian these days and its about 95% of British kids that are drunk.
British kids must look rather discussing to other communities.
Cart all these drunks teens up and ship them off to sully island for a few weeks.
I agree there should be a curfew.
If there caught out especially drunk. They should be tazered all the way home
Jilted john .
[bold]bold[/bold]
What kind of people run these off licenses, are they scared to refuse these kids.
If they are they should not be doing the job
Or is the wage at the end of the week more important than the suffering these kids inflict on themselves and others.
A complete ban should be served on all these quick buck sell anything to anyone off-licence stores.
Shop owners are no more than drug dealers selling to kids.
At any point in a day or night the police can catch these shop owners but they don’t bother.
When they are caught they no there doing wrong they should be banned
The shop should be black listed’ so its not passed to another family member
We all no the majority of shop owners are Asian these days and its about 95% of British kids that are drunk.
British kids must look rather discussing to other communities.
Cart all these drunks teens up and ship them off to sully island for a few weeks.
I agree there should be a curfew.
If there caught out especially drunk. They should be tazered all the way home
Jilted john .
Posted by: john on 8:44pm Fri 9 May 08
What kind of people run these off licenses, are they scared to refuse these kids.
If they are they should not be doing the job
Or is the wage at the end of the week more important than the suffering these kids inflict on themselves and others.
A complete ban should be served on all these quick buck sell anything to anyone off-licence stores.
Shop owners are no more than drug dealers selling to kids.
At any point in a day or night the police can catch these shop owners but they don’t bother.
When they are caught they no there doing wrong they should be banned
The shop should be black listed’ so its not passed to another family member
We all no the majority of shop owners are Asian these days and its about 95% of British kids that are drunk.
British kids must look rather discussing to other communities.
Cart all these drunks teens up and ship them off to sully island for a few weeks.
I agree there should be a curfew.
If there caught out especially drunk. They should be tazered all the way home
Jilted john .
[bold]bold[/bold]
What kind of people run these off licenses, are they scared to refuse these kids.
If they are they should not be doing the job
Or is the wage at the end of the week more important than the suffering these kids inflict on themselves and others.
A complete ban should be served on all these quick buck sell anything to anyone off-licence stores.
Shop owners are no more than drug dealers selling to kids.
At any point in a day or night the police can catch these shop owners but they don’t bother.
When they are caught they no there doing wrong they should be banned
The shop should be black listed’ so its not passed to another family member
We all no the majority of shop owners are Asian these days and its about 95% of British kids that are drunk.
British kids must look rather discussing to other communities.
Cart all these drunks teens up and ship them off to sully island for a few weeks.
I agree there should be a curfew.
If there caught out especially drunk. They should be tazered all the way home
Jilted john .
Posted by: BD, Somewhere in Gwent on 9:09pm Fri 9 May 08
hate to bring up a minor point here, but no hospital has pumped anyones stomach for at least 10 years.
hate to bring up a minor point here, but no hospital has pumped anyones stomach for at least 10 years.
Posted by: tinribs, Newport on 9:45pm Fri 9 May 08
Once I loved living in this City, like a lot of people i know it's being ruined by yobs of all ages. The little F**kers broke in to my house scared my little dog so much he followed me around for a week and stole anything they could sell quickly for drugs or booze. Police say they know whou did it but are still trying to prove it, meanwhile we lost about £3k worth of stuff. Somebody even saw them and described them to the police. They were teenagers 15 year old's that should be in school or prison or better still boot camp. Drink, drugs, car crime it's all the same to them they have no respect for other people end of. i can see the day when someone takes this in to their own hands and really hurts these kids should the Argus not be starting a campaign against these low life who ruin our City for the rest of us. Get the Government to sort this out, it will be the best thing they can do for the country.
Once I loved living in this City, like a lot of people i know it's being ruined by yobs of all ages. The little F**kers broke in to my house scared my little dog so much he followed me around for a week and stole anything they could sell quickly for drugs or booze. Police say they know whou did it but are still trying to prove it, meanwhile we lost about £3k worth of stuff. Somebody even saw them and described them to the police. They were teenagers 15 year old's that should be in school or prison or better still boot camp. Drink, drugs, car crime it's all the same to them they have no respect for other people end of. i can see the day when someone takes this in to their own hands and really hurts these kids should the Argus not be starting a campaign against these low life who ruin our City for the rest of us. Get the Government to sort this out, it will be the best thing they can do for the country.
Posted by: mad_taff, newport on 12:53am Sat 10 May 08
I know an officer involved in the operation, who set it up and only then did the police and trading standards take any notice! I know people knock the wardens, but doesn't it seem strange that now it was succsessful the police are claiming it was their idea? be interesting to ask how many police officers were attatched to the op? as opposed to how many wardens.I'll remember to ask at the next neighbourhood meeting......you might be surprised at the LACK of police resources allocated to ' seriously tackle antisocial behavior' the wardens for those that don't know are council not police....! interesting.
I know an officer involved in the operation, who set it up and only then did the police and trading standards take any notice! I know people knock the wardens, but doesn't it seem strange that now it was succsessful the police are claiming it was their idea? be interesting to ask how many police officers were attatched to the op? as opposed to how many wardens.I'll remember to ask at the next neighbourhood meeting......you might be surprised at the LACK of police resources allocated to ' seriously tackle antisocial behavior' the wardens for those that don't know are council not police....! interesting.
Posted by: Welsh_Lass, Gwent on 2:20am Sat 10 May 08
Well done to the Community Safety Warden(s) for initiating this op and the results that it produced. Lets hope the Gaer Estate will be a better place for it!
Well done to the Community Safety Warden(s) for initiating this op and the results that it produced. Lets hope the Gaer Estate will be a better place for it!
Posted by: Oddjob, Monmouthshire on 10:12am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]mad_taff[/bold] wrote:
I know an officer involved in the operation, who set it up and only then did the police and trading standards take any notice! I know people knock the wardens, but doesn't it seem strange that now it was succsessful the police are claiming it was their idea? be interesting to ask how many police officers were attatched to the op? as opposed to how many wardens.I'll remember to ask at the next neighbourhood meeting......you might be surprised at the LACK of police resources allocated to ' seriously tackle antisocial behavior' the wardens for those that don't know are council not police....! interesting. [/quote] Thanks for clarifying this. Nothing that the police in this town do (or should I say don't do)surprises me anymore. I've witnessed their pathetic performances more that once.
mad_taff wrote:
I know an officer involved in the operation, who set it up and only then did the police and trading standards take any notice! I know people knock the wardens, but doesn't it seem strange that now it was succsessful the police are claiming it was their idea? be interesting to ask how many police officers were attatched to the op? as opposed to how many wardens.I'll remember to ask at the next neighbourhood meeting......you might be surprised at the LACK of police resources allocated to ' seriously tackle antisocial behavior' the wardens for those that don't know are council not police....! interesting.
Thanks for clarifying this. Nothing that the police in this town do (or should I say don't do)surprises me anymore. I've witnessed their pathetic performances more that once.
Posted by: seren_night, newport on 11:19am Sat 10 May 08
Well you parents of these mini-me's should be totally ashamed of yourselves! Why would you as so-called adults want to inflict your disgusting morals(or more importantly lack of morals) onto these children of yours? Parents who drink to excess should have their kids taken off them so the poor little buggers have a once for a full life and don't all minto the trap of alcholism! and not one full of drink, despair, and an early death!
Well you parents of these mini-me's should be totally ashamed of yourselves! Why would you as so-called adults want to inflict your disgusting morals(or more importantly lack of morals) onto these children of yours? Parents who drink to excess should have their kids taken off them so the poor little buggers have a once for a full life and don't all minto the trap of alcholism! and not one full of drink, despair, and an early death!
Posted by: betty, Newport on 12:03pm Sat 10 May 08
Mad Taff- You will find it was a multi agency planned event, the police and the wardens worked closely together for a number of nights in the area. They liased with trading standards to try and resolve the problem which has worked well.
The police do work in the area, but the sooner the better that people realise that the vast amounts of paper work that these officers do can prevent them from patrolling the streets as much as they liked. All because if silly targets set by the home office, did you know that when a shop lifter is no arrested, the police have to requests cps advice as to whether it is worthwhile interviewing them !!!! And if CPS the duration of the wait can be hours therefore preventing police from patrolling.
People who moan that they dont see police, well answer me 1 question do you stand at you window 24 hours a day to check !!! I dont think so, so wind you neck in.
Mad Taff- You will find it was a multi agency planned event, the police and the wardens worked closely together for a number of nights in the area. They liased with trading standards to try and resolve the problem which has worked well.
The police do work in the area, but the sooner the better that people realise that the vast amounts of paper work that these officers do can prevent them from patrolling the streets as much as they liked. All because if silly targets set by the home office, did you know that when a shop lifter is no arrested, the police have to requests cps advice as to whether it is worthwhile interviewing them !!!! And if CPS the duration of the wait can be hours therefore preventing police from patrolling.
People who moan that they dont see police, well answer me 1 question do you stand at you window 24 hours a day to check !!! I dont think so, so wind you neck in.
Posted by: mad_taff, newport on 2:53pm Sat 10 May 08
I'm not knocking the police betty, in fact i agree with your sentiments.
The less paprework to justify the jobsworths elsewhere the better.
The police do a dangerous and difficult job, usually to see all their work thrown out by a paper sifting lawyer who just want to drink from the trough.
The local police, wardens & pcso's working in the area need our support, who know's this could lead the way for other areas to take notice. But to end it all, as previously stated by others...'where's mum & dad in all this'? after the youths have been dealt with, maybe we ought to be looking at them, after all the fruit never falls far from the tree.
I'm not knocking the police betty, in fact i agree with your sentiments.
The less paprework to justify the jobsworths elsewhere the better.
The police do a dangerous and difficult job, usually to see all their work thrown out by a paper sifting lawyer who just want to drink from the trough.
The local police, wardens & pcso's working in the area need our support, who know's this could lead the way for other areas to take notice. But to end it all, as previously stated by others...'where's mum & dad in all this'? after the youths have been dealt with, maybe we ought to be looking at them, after all the fruit never falls far from the tree.
Posted by: mouth, newport on 8:05pm Sat 10 May 08
This is not just a Newport problem, it is everywhere in the UK. The people who keep knocking newport still live here because they know other places have similar problems. Agree that parents need to be responsible for their kids actions - so many parents lack parent skills today and it should be taught at schools
This is not just a Newport problem, it is everywhere in the UK. The people who keep knocking newport still live here because they know other places have similar problems. Agree that parents need to be responsible for their kids actions - so many parents lack parent skills today and it should be taught at schools
Posted by: Simon, Newport on 8:38pm Sat 10 May 08
Parenting skills???? How much parenting skill does it take to smell alcohol on the breath of your child when you speak to them????
Or perhaps therein lies the problem...
Parenting skills???? How much parenting skill does it take to smell alcohol on the breath of your child when you speak to them????
Or perhaps therein lies the problem...
Posted by: dave, newport on 12:12am Sun 11 May 08
[quote][bold]BT[/bold] wrote:
Where are these teanagers [bold]parents?[/bold] Why are they not asking questions when their young teenagers arrive home [bold]intoxicated?[/bold] . The sale of alchohol to underage teenagers is a police issue, however the fact the teenagers are buying and drinking is a parenting issue and responsibility of what they children are up to!![/quote] dont mean to b funny i lived in careleon for a long time & noticed all the teens that sat outsidde shops drinking had been droped of by there parents (with a bag in hand full of cans)so most of the parents know what thay are up to thay just dont want to admite it (so plz dont ask why parents dont konw what kids are up 2)
BT wrote:
Where are these teanagers parents? Why are they not asking questions when their young teenagers arrive home intoxicated? . The sale of alchohol to underage teenagers is a police issue, however the fact the teenagers are buying and drinking is a parenting issue and responsibility of what they children are up to!!
dont mean to b funny i lived in careleon for a long time & noticed all the teens that sat outsidde shops drinking had been droped of by there parents (with a bag in hand full of cans)so most of the parents know what thay are up to thay just dont want to admite it (so plz dont ask why parents dont konw what kids are up 2)
Posted by: dave, newport on 12:14am Sun 11 May 08
sorry about spelling it is 12 in the morning need sleep
sorry about spelling it is 12 in the morning need sleep
Posted by: Tinkerbell, unknown on 9:56pm Mon 12 May 08
i partly agree with what you have all said.
however, not all teenagers are the same in newport. the majority of kids are well behaved and yes they might like the occassional drink but they dont do it in public and they dont broadcast for everyone 2 see. i think the way that you talk about teenagers all being the same is rude because they are not the same some are well behaved and yes if the parents controlled the kids properly then we wouldnt have this nuisance. i blame the parents. i also think that there should be more police officers patrolling areas of newport and ensuring that the bad kids are kept under control or taken home to let the parents sort them out as they are beginning to become a nuisance to locals etc...
i partly agree with what you have all said.
however, not all teenagers are the same in newport. the majority of kids are well behaved and yes they might like the occassional drink but they dont do it in public and they dont broadcast for everyone 2 see. i think the way that you talk about teenagers all being the same is rude because they are not the same some are well behaved and yes if the parents controlled the kids properly then we wouldnt have this nuisance. i blame the parents. i also think that there should be more police officers patrolling areas of newport and ensuring that the bad kids are kept under control or taken home to let the parents sort them out as they are beginning to become a nuisance to locals etc...
Posted by: xclarex, Bettws on 1:15am Thu 15 May 08
[quote][bold]Say_it_isnt_so[/bold] wrote:
I know some parents that believe that letting their kids drink in front of them will prevent them from drinking on the streets behind their backs... I personlally think this will encourage it! Alcohol has a legal age limit of 18 for a reason.[/quote] the age limit of 18 is to BUY alcohol. i remember looking through a law book before and it stated that as long as the child was in their own home, with a parent, the minimum age was 5. And i just checked that on wikipedia. 5!! Do they even know what alcohol is??? My mum used to let me drink when she was around, when i was 15. now i'm 24 and i have to admit i dont drink that often. However, i work in a pub and after seeing some of the states of people in there i wouldn't want to drink!! I agree with the curfew, all kids under 18 in before 9pm. parents get fined if their kids are anti-social / drunk etc etc. they'll soon put a stop to it!!
Say_it_isnt_so wrote:
I know some parents that believe that letting their kids drink in front of them will prevent them from drinking on the streets behind their backs... I personlally think this will encourage it! Alcohol has a legal age limit of 18 for a reason.
the age limit of 18 is to BUY alcohol. i remember looking through a law book before and it stated that as long as the child was in their own home, with a parent, the minimum age was 5. And i just checked that on wikipedia. 5!! Do they even know what alcohol is??? My mum used to let me drink when she was around, when i was 15. now i'm 24 and i have to admit i dont drink that often. However, i work in a pub and after seeing some of the states of people in there i wouldn't want to drink!! I agree with the curfew, all kids under 18 in before 9pm. parents get fined if their kids are anti-social / drunk etc etc. they'll soon put a stop to it!!
Posted by: xclarex, Bettws on 1:22am Thu 15 May 08
To Jilted John: I think we know what kind of people run these shops which knowingly sell alcohol to underagers. At the end of their day its money. Its the same kind of people who want something for nothing, but they charge £1.50 for a pint of milk!
To Jilted John: I think we know what kind of people run these shops which knowingly sell alcohol to underagers. At the end of their day its money. Its the same kind of people who want something for nothing, but they charge £1.50 for a pint of milk!
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